I would guess that Zoellner doesn't know who stabbed Lawson because Lawson had him in a headlock at the time while a large group beat him until he lost consciousness. Why isn't the father asking why the other 100 people there who didn't get beaten unconscious won't give anyone information?
So by his words of why bring charges against those who beat Zoellner so severely, shows that he is not afraid for any more facts to be brought into the light for all to see, the very facts that could condemn him if he was the one who stabbed this man's son. And let's face it we have 'alternative racial bias' at hand.
stop comparing Trayvon Martin and others to your son. Your son was not on his way home from bible class and got attacked by some KKK members. Your son was engaging in illegal activities, starting fights and got killed. He didn't deserve to die, but he had a hand in his death. Stop blaming innocent people. Maybe you should start looking at his "friends" Let's be real, that knife was meant for Kyle but the person missed. "when their friend is n a fight will natually aid them." Remember the BU code, "brothers before others" That knife came from someone from the house. Another possibility, The Castillos admitted to leaving to go back to the car. Maybe they grabbed a knife and went back and lied about the time frame. Maybe they were meaning to stab Kyle and got Josiah, they had been pepper sprayed and couldn't see very well. Maybe your son could've been saved if the crowd would've been calm and cooperated with the police. Blame the party goers, no one wanted to cooperate with the police. Who's print is on the knife? If everyone is so concerned about getting justice for Josiah, why are they not providing their fingerprints? Kyle was just as much a victim in this as your son, the only difference is he gets to live with people accusing him of a crime he didn't commit. He doesn't get to live a normal life. It's disgusting that people want to claim racial injustice when this particular incident had nothing to do with race. If Josiah were white, this wouldn't even be a discussion. Corliss Bennett disgusts me, I can't believe HSU is allowing her to continue her job when she is doing nothing but fueling the fire. She is clearly not concerned with getting justice, she is more concerned with getting revenge in the form of riots. Talking about getting dirty looks at Subway because she is black and asked for extra cheese. I get the same looks when I ask for extra, it doesn't have shit to do with race, it's just shitty customer service. Jay, you can't accept the story that your son fought? His friends said he was fighting! So you refuse to believe that his friends did it because they were trying to save him yet you don't believe his friends saying he was fighting? That doesn't add up.
While I understand this man lost his son, and wants his son remembered as a saint, that fact is, Kyle was beaten, and beaten bad. Those responsible for the attack on Kyle should be held responsible, and if the police and the DA are not doing so, they should have to answer as to why they are not holding the people who attacked Kyle responsible. #justiceforkyle
Solving murders and gathering facts to make your case stick in court doesn't happen overnight. It's not uncommon for homicide investigations to take years. And I think the race card being thrown in there at this point is being hasty and a little too liberal with using it.
David Lawson's mother, Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father are grieving and hurt and one can understand them lashing out in their grief, somewhat.
However, there are questions that people have brought up and I have as well, which also deserve to brought up because the media frenzy did not start with me or any one else being attacked by local regressives like Liberal Jon and the anon leftie trolls. These regressives have no real interest in this case except to use this tragedy to silence me and others for their selfish agenda and misguided hate present long before the tragic death of Josiah.
Who has a go fund me page created very quickly after their child has just died? I can understand for funeral and burial expenses but legal expenses? When was this attorney hired for the Lawson family? That is relevant because actions such as the poster at CR being put up before the preliminary was over, the immediate cry of racism to media, the frenzy and outrage started before the preliminary started and Kyle Zoellner was still in jail.
Who has been stirring the hornet's nest? And continues to?
From day one, any attempt to report the facts or hold anyone else accountable besides Zoellner is met with cries of racism.
Making this into an issue of race is coming from one side and was started by one side.
While Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father have not said anything to me or other commenters, only Zoellner and his family, I am sick of them calling this community racist.
Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father have been silent about the hate, smear and racist, transphobic comments directed to me and others by people speaking for their cause.
They are not the only ones to lose a loved one in a horrible tragedy.
They have not once condemned the actions of Tina Sampay or anyone else flaming the racial rhetoric. Blacks are not the only one who experience racism and discrimination.
Why shouldn't everyone that night including Paris Wright and the Castillo brothers be investigated, if truth is the goal?
Is this about truth or justice only? Are they planning a civil lawsuit against APD and HSU?
Those claiming I censor comments. I have addressed that issue several times. Done explaining. Every site moderates and at least two people have contacted and told me that their comments about me, positive, were not allowed on another online site.
Since Liberal Jon likes to think he is the know it all and thinks anyone except his five or less readers take him seriously, maybe he would like to explain why it is okay for certain comments to be okay on other online sites but he focuses just on mine? He should also explain why it is okay to close the toiletdome for comments on this case but not others? And explain his hypocrisy in not calling out the hate directed towards Zoellner. It's because in Liberal Jon's fantasy world, attacking white, Conservative or anyone that does not ascribe to his views is the enemy. And he wants those social justice warrior points to prove how enlightened he is while the rest of us "don't get it."
has to be a white on black crime. imagine if it came out that the kid was stabbed on accident because they were going for the kyle kid. that's what the misc confessional craigslist ad said. if it was true, how is this a racist crime perpetrated by the white man? if that's true kyle was the victim of a hate crime & Josiah was a accident, a horrible & tragic accident. & why is the father focusing on kyle? he had been knocked out when the stabbing happened. josiahs girlfriend got cut too, how come she doesn't know who did it?
Lost Coast Outpost censors comments made on their facebook page and they are dishonest about how they do that. They remove the comment by making the comment invisible to everyone BUT the commenter and his/her friends. It appears the comment is still there, yet nobody can see it. Typical "lefties" : taking away voices that express opinions they don't agree with.
There is a reason I call it Toiletdome. They have blocked two people I know for sure. At least on two instances because it was setting the record straight and positive about me. The only people still reading LOCO are those wanting to access other sites and their little clique of insiders. Even then their comments are mostly rubbish and unrelated to the topic.
Stop acting like Kyle is the victim. If Lawson was your children you would hate to see all this shit talking about your son who passed away All you people would be doing the same stuff they are doing. Maybe Kyle didn't do the stabbing but his dumb crazy ass bitch did, all leads to her. Think about she said "I hope that nigger dies" and got mad/ scared because one of the knifes were missing. Get real people for real!! You guys are making humboldt look disgusting
And you have what evidence that you can prove in a court of law about your claim who stabbed Josiah? Your opinion? Graffiti in Eureka and Arcata, labeling the entire community racist, name calling, anger is all coming from either outsiders or some local anonymous cowards unrelated to Josiah. The only one who is disgusting is you. No one is going to rush and convict someone because of your mob mentality and bullying. Public opinion is not unanimous in this case and even if it was, public opinion does not convict people in this country. Laws, evidence and a judicial process are there for a reason.
"One of the knives were missing" are you so dumb (rhetorical question) that you did not see the missing knife of Kyle was actual in with his other knives? Are you maybe speaking or knowing a knife from the house where the party was is missing? Maybe she said she hoped he died because he had just beat the crap out of Kyle, and she felt at the time he deserved what he got? (most people say stuff they don't mean in a heated situation) It is obvious, being you are "anonymous" that you are one of the liberal who want to blame an innocent kid, who got the crap and nearly life beat out of him. And if Kyle was your kid, you would hate to see all this shit talk about him being guilty, when he is innocent.
To Anonymous, or maybe Josiah was just a little punk who had his hand in the pot! His little punk gang routine got old and alot of people hated him. Everyone, including BLACK people say the n word all the time but now it's not okay? We make Humboldt look bad? Bitch please it's only getting bad because we have trash like the inner city kids coming here and fucking shit up! If Lawson had been my kid you best fucking believe he wouldn't be out at no party at 3 am stealing phones and jumping people! And if he were white he would have had medical attention sooner because white people don't act a damn fool in situations like this! They know how to shut the fuck up and get out of the way!!! They don't pull that ghetto wanna be Compton bull shit that the BU gang pulled that night. Josiah's dad looks like a damn fool saying his son would never fight blah blah blah. Josiah's facebook was littered with fighting videos! Please miss us with that bull shit! It's time to leave the code out of this and start looking at you sons"friends" because it was one of his own who killed him! Please tell me you're not that stupid.
And leave John Chiv alone, you look like a punk bully bitch constantly harassing him! What are you jealous because he not only does his job better than you ever could, but because you know he looks better than you too?! Grow the fuck up and leave him alone, you don't make or break him!
Don't apologize. Cuss words are fine. At least they are honestly expressing frustration and feelings. Our community has been maligned, people have spread lies about me and others, stalked me and others. Never in any case I have covered or at any time that I have been a reporter, here, Atlanta or Philadelphia have I seen such disgusting and harassing behavior. Thank you for your support.
Hey Annonymous May 19, 2017 at 6:53 PM Josiah's own friends stabbed him while Josiah and others had Kyle in a headlock beating him unconscious. Yes they were trying to stab Kyle but with all the commotion they stabbed their friend accidently. This is the only thing that makes any since.....Kyle didn't get there until 3 am sober just wanting to pick up his party and get out of there. He didn't go into a party with hundreds of people sober looking for a fight with no buddies there to back him up. Face the facts you guys are playing the race card and blaming an innocent person for something your not willing to admit you did yourself. MESSED UP!! If humboldt is to racist for you...go home!!!
Actually sounds like his son was possibly into the whole gang banging thing since he allegedly jumped Arcata dad on January 16th. I'd like to see that case investigated as well. Brothers United comes off as a gang, not an organization to lift up black youth. "Brothers before ALL OTHERS." If I had an organization called White Pride United with a slogan of "Blood before all" what would you call that? A gang.
On another note, I feel bad for DJ's father. The rage he is feeling has clouded his mind into seeing his son as infallible and Zoeller as the white devil who for some reason is the only person with answers at a party with 100 of DJ's supposed friends. Where are the videos? Can't tell me no one started recording the fight out of 100 people.
I would guess that Zoellner doesn't know who stabbed Lawson because Lawson had him in a headlock at the time while a large group beat him until he lost consciousness. Why isn't the father asking why the other 100 people there who didn't get beaten unconscious won't give anyone information?
ReplyDeleteSo by his words of why bring charges against those who beat Zoellner so severely, shows that he is not afraid for any more facts to be brought into the light for all to see, the very facts that could condemn him if he was the one who stabbed this man's son. And let's face it we have 'alternative racial bias' at hand.
ReplyDeletestop comparing Trayvon Martin and others to your son. Your son was not on his way home from bible class and got attacked by some KKK members. Your son was engaging in illegal activities, starting fights and got killed. He didn't deserve to die, but he had a hand in his death. Stop blaming innocent people. Maybe you should start looking at his "friends" Let's be real, that knife was meant for Kyle but the person missed. "when their friend is n a fight will natually aid them." Remember the BU code, "brothers before others" That knife came from someone from the house. Another possibility, The Castillos admitted to leaving to go back to the car. Maybe they grabbed a knife and went back and lied about the time frame. Maybe they were meaning to stab Kyle and got Josiah, they had been pepper sprayed and couldn't see very well. Maybe your son could've been saved if the crowd would've been calm and cooperated with the police. Blame the party goers, no one wanted to cooperate with the police. Who's print is on the knife? If everyone is so concerned about getting justice for Josiah, why are they not providing their fingerprints? Kyle was just as much a victim in this as your son, the only difference is he gets to live with people accusing him of a crime he didn't commit. He doesn't get to live a normal life. It's disgusting that people want to claim racial injustice when this particular incident had nothing to do with race. If Josiah were white, this wouldn't even be a discussion. Corliss Bennett disgusts me, I can't believe HSU is allowing her to continue her job when she is doing nothing but fueling the fire. She is clearly not concerned with getting justice, she is more concerned with getting revenge in the form of riots. Talking about getting dirty looks at Subway because she is black and asked for extra cheese. I get the same looks when I ask for extra, it doesn't have shit to do with race, it's just shitty customer service. Jay, you can't accept the story that your son fought? His friends said he was fighting! So you refuse to believe that his friends did it because they were trying to save him yet you don't believe his friends saying he was fighting? That doesn't add up.
ReplyDeleteWhile I understand this man lost his son, and wants his son remembered as a saint, that fact is, Kyle was beaten, and beaten bad. Those responsible for the attack on Kyle should be held responsible, and if the police and the DA are not doing so, they should have to answer as to why they are not holding the people who attacked Kyle responsible. #justiceforkyle
ReplyDeleteSolving murders and gathering facts to make your case stick in court doesn't happen overnight. It's not uncommon for homicide investigations to take years. And I think
ReplyDeletethe race card being thrown in there at this point is being hasty and a little too liberal with using it.
David Lawson's mother, Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father are grieving and hurt and one can understand them lashing out in their grief, somewhat.
ReplyDeleteHowever, there are questions that people have brought up and I have as well, which also deserve to brought up because the media frenzy did not start with me or any one else being attacked by local regressives like Liberal Jon and the anon leftie trolls. These regressives have no real interest in this case except to use this tragedy to silence me and others for their selfish agenda and misguided hate present long before the tragic death of Josiah.
Who has a go fund me page created very quickly after their child has just died? I can understand for funeral and burial expenses but legal expenses? When was this attorney hired for the Lawson family? That is relevant because actions such as the poster at CR being put up before the preliminary was over, the immediate cry of racism to media, the frenzy and outrage started before the preliminary started and Kyle Zoellner was still in jail.
Who has been stirring the hornet's nest? And continues to?
From day one, any attempt to report the facts or hold anyone else accountable besides Zoellner is met with cries of racism.
Making this into an issue of race is coming from one side and was started by one side.
While Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father have not said anything to me or other commenters, only Zoellner and his family, I am sick of them calling this community racist.
Ms. Lawson and Josiah's father have been silent about the hate, smear and racist, transphobic comments directed to me and others by people speaking for their cause.
They are not the only ones to lose a loved one in a horrible tragedy.
They have not once condemned the actions of Tina Sampay or anyone else flaming the racial rhetoric. Blacks are not the only one who experience racism and discrimination.
Why shouldn't everyone that night including Paris Wright and the Castillo brothers be investigated, if truth is the goal?
Is this about truth or justice only? Are they planning a civil lawsuit against APD and HSU?
Those claiming I censor comments. I have addressed that issue several times. Done explaining. Every site moderates and at least two people have contacted and told me that their comments about me, positive, were not allowed on another online site.
Since Liberal Jon likes to think he is the know it all and thinks anyone except his five or less readers take him seriously, maybe he would like to explain why it is okay for certain comments to be okay on other online sites but he focuses just on mine? He should also explain why it is okay to close the toiletdome for comments on this case but not others? And explain his hypocrisy in not calling out the hate directed towards Zoellner. It's because in Liberal Jon's fantasy world, attacking white, Conservative or anyone that does not ascribe to his views is the enemy. And he wants those social justice warrior points to prove how enlightened he is while the rest of us "don't get it."
Deletehas to be a white on black crime. imagine if it came out that the kid was stabbed on accident because they were going for the kyle kid. that's what the misc confessional craigslist ad said. if it was true, how is this a racist crime perpetrated by the white man? if that's true kyle was the victim of a hate crime & Josiah was a accident, a horrible & tragic accident.
ReplyDelete& why is the father focusing on kyle? he had been knocked out when the stabbing happened. josiahs girlfriend got cut too, how come she doesn't know who did it?
Lost Coast Outpost censors comments made on their facebook page and they are dishonest about how they do that. They remove the comment by making the comment invisible to everyone BUT the commenter and his/her friends. It appears the comment is still there, yet nobody can see it. Typical "lefties" : taking away voices that express opinions they don't agree with.
ReplyDeleteThere is a reason I call it Toiletdome. They have blocked two people I know for sure. At least on two instances because it was setting the record straight and positive about me. The only people still reading LOCO are those wanting to access other sites and their little clique of insiders. Even then their comments are mostly rubbish and unrelated to the topic.
DeleteStop acting like Kyle is the victim. If Lawson was your children you would hate to see all this shit talking about your son who passed away All you people would be doing the same stuff they are doing. Maybe Kyle didn't do the stabbing but his dumb crazy ass bitch did, all leads to her. Think about she said "I hope that nigger dies" and got mad/ scared because one of the knifes were missing. Get real people for real!! You guys are making humboldt look disgusting
ReplyDeleteAnd you have what evidence that you can prove in a court of law about your claim who stabbed Josiah? Your opinion? Graffiti in Eureka and Arcata, labeling the entire community racist, name calling, anger is all coming from either outsiders or some local anonymous cowards unrelated to Josiah. The only one who is disgusting is you. No one is going to rush and convict someone because of your mob mentality and bullying. Public opinion is not unanimous in this case and even if it was, public opinion does not convict people in this country. Laws, evidence and a judicial process are there for a reason.
Delete"One of the knives were missing" are you so dumb (rhetorical question) that you did not see the missing knife of Kyle was actual in with his other knives? Are you maybe speaking or knowing a knife from the house where the party was is missing? Maybe she said she hoped he died because he had just beat the crap out of Kyle, and she felt at the time he deserved what he got? (most people say stuff they don't mean in a heated situation) It is obvious, being you are "anonymous" that you are one of the liberal who want to blame an innocent kid, who got the crap and nearly life beat out of him. And if Kyle was your kid, you would hate to see all this shit talk about him being guilty, when he is innocent.
DeleteTo Anonymous, or maybe Josiah was just a little punk who had his hand in the pot! His little punk gang routine got old and alot of people hated him. Everyone, including BLACK people say the n word all the time but now it's not okay? We make Humboldt look bad? Bitch please it's only getting bad because we have trash like the inner city kids coming here and fucking shit up! If Lawson had been my kid you best fucking believe he wouldn't be out at no party at 3 am stealing phones and jumping people! And if he were white he would have had medical attention sooner because white people don't act a damn fool in situations like this! They know how to shut the fuck up and get out of the way!!! They don't pull that ghetto wanna be Compton bull shit that the BU gang pulled that night. Josiah's dad looks like a damn fool saying his son would never fight blah blah blah. Josiah's facebook was littered with fighting videos! Please miss us with that bull shit! It's time to leave the code out of this and start looking at you sons"friends" because it was one of his own who killed him! Please tell me you're not that stupid.
DeleteAnd leave John Chiv alone, you look like a punk bully bitch constantly harassing him! What are you jealous because he not only does his job better than you ever could, but because you know he looks better than you too?! Grow the fuck up and leave him alone, you don't make or break him!
And sorry for all the cuss words used John.
DeleteDon't apologize. Cuss words are fine. At least they are honestly expressing frustration and feelings. Our community has been maligned, people have spread lies about me and others, stalked me and others. Never in any case I have covered or at any time that I have been a reporter, here, Atlanta or Philadelphia have I seen such disgusting and harassing behavior. Thank you for your support.
DeleteHey Annonymous May 19, 2017 at 6:53 PM
ReplyDeleteJosiah's own friends stabbed him while Josiah and others had Kyle in a headlock beating him unconscious. Yes they were trying to stab Kyle but with all the commotion they stabbed their friend accidently. This is the only thing that makes any since.....Kyle didn't get there until 3 am sober just wanting to pick up his party and get out of there. He didn't go into a party with hundreds of people sober looking for a fight with no buddies there to back him up. Face the facts you guys are playing the race card and blaming an innocent person for something your not willing to admit you did yourself. MESSED UP!! If humboldt is to racist for you...go home!!!
Actually sounds like his son was possibly into the whole gang banging thing since he allegedly jumped Arcata dad on January 16th. I'd like to see that case investigated as well. Brothers United comes off as a gang, not an organization to lift up black youth. "Brothers before ALL OTHERS." If I had an organization called White Pride United with a slogan of "Blood before all" what would you call that? A gang.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, I feel bad for DJ's father. The rage he is feeling has clouded his mind into seeing his son as infallible and Zoeller as the white devil who for some reason is the only person with answers at a party with 100 of DJ's supposed friends. Where are the videos? Can't tell me no one started recording the fight out of 100 people.