HUMCPR can certainly afford to pay their own attorney fees, especially since none of the profits or money benefit anyone else other than landowners.
This is not the first time HUMCPR has sued the County. If they are going to waste County resources on lawsuits that only benefit certain greedy landowners that do not invest any of that money back into the community via jobs or donations for law enforcement, fire, road services for their large parcels of land , then they need to quit speaking for the public and siphoning taxpayers.
Also,it is a blatant conflict of interest for anyone associated with HUMCPR to sit on the Planning Commission or any entity that they have a vested interest in.
If citizens are going to call Greg Dale out for "conflict of interest", then it should be the same standard for others.
I don't have a problem with all HUMCPR members, just those who think they are entitled to prosperity at the cost of others.
Not all rich people, not all developers,not all politicians, not all growers, not (fill in the blank) are the same; just those individuals using power to supress the success of others. We have those on the left and we have those on the right.
http://www.fppc.ca.gov/learn/conflicts-of-interest-rules.html
Not all liberals....Not all conservatives...
ReplyDeleteFor instance, you make very good sense here. Good post.
Hey, it's about time someone called out the HumCpr folks for sitting on the county Planning Commission. Blatant conflict of interest. Their literature claims they want to "preserve our rural lifestyle" NOT! They want to subdivide, build new roads, downsize minimum parcel sizes, infringe on riparian habitat, and support mega grows. This is not the rural lifestyle we want.
ReplyDeleteSo what other constitutional rights should be classified as conflict of interest?
ReplyDeleteMonte? A Constitutional right is a freedom of speech. You have a problem with Greg Dale voting for something that allegedly benefits his business but you don't have a problem with someone like Lee Ulansey sitting on the Planning Commission, funding political campaigns and setting laws and policies that benefit land use. Screwing over others so you can make profit, not creating any wealth or jobs is not capitalism, it is not a constitutional right.
DeleteLee helped start HumCPR and is a land developer. Engagaing in political activity, which that organization clearly does, is a conflict if he is to represent all of us objectively. However, since he's not elected, he doesn't have to care... HumCPR helped put Estelle in office, and they got paid off with a seat on the commission, among other things... Semmed pretty clear to most of us..
DeleteJohn, the right to own and enjoy property is not only a constitutional right but the foundation of our system of government.
DeleteIf Ulancey and Morris are involved in illegal activitys then say so. What is the purpose of smearing the thousands of members of Humboldt Citizens for property rights.
Who is going to decide what organizations you belong to before it becomes a conflict of interest?
Monte, do you read before you respond? I have not smeared all HUMCPR members. This post is about conflict of interest of HUMCPR being politically involved, having several members on the Planning Commission, and voting on land use. I have updated the post with a link to the FPPC. You have not answered my question regarding Greg Dale. You can be pissed all you want but Board of Supervisor Meetings are stacked with landowners. I did not say illegal activity so do not put words in my mouth. If you are going to belabor the same point, without responding to questions or facts, I am not wasting my time on the same comment.
DeleteHUMCPR is not indigent. HUMCPR by suing the County hurts the average taxpayer.
ReplyDeleteUnder State law when the county discovers that a parcel is illegal it is obligated to make this public. For years the county did not do this. As a consequence hundreds of land owners unknowingly acquired illegal parcels.
ReplyDeleteThe law suit by HumCPR was on behalf of these taxpayers. To purpose was to make the County do the right thing.
As for the Dale conflict, it is being decided by the FPPC. I'm pretty sure belonging to a political organization does not meet the criteria for conflict of interest, using your logic anyone that belongs to the Sierra Club, ACLU, Green Peace, NAACP, NRA, etc. would not be able to hold office.
Monte, once again you go off on a tangent. The County stopped their practice, offered to make that practice permanent, HUMCPR refused to settle the lawsuit and went on for a year and a half on an issue they did not file a pleading to. Are you telling me as a taxpayer, I will benefit from this lawsuit? No, I will not. I don't own land. Your wife holds a position on the HUMCPR board. Besides the advisory board, who are these members? How much land do the members own. I have already explained to you what conflict of interest means, more than once. Yet, you keep arguing on a tangent. The hypocrisy is that you have no problem with Greg Dale being sued and he has a constitutional right to hold office, yet you defend HUMCPR board members who you think should be in multiple positions to vote on vested interests. I will not be responding or publishing any more of your same off the topic arguments. HUMCPR does not care about the average taxpayers, they care about their own profits and quest for power. The good ole boys need to think twice about how they treat people. Bullying won't work with me. You didn't have a,problem when I reported on Greg Dale or the Baykeeper or EPIC.
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